I read an article in this week's TIME which stated that while the S&P 500 has returned 11.8% over the 20 years ending in 2006, the average investor earned only a 4.3% return. Let's take a look at how badly the average investor was beaten by the market.
If you invested $10,000 in 1986:
Average Investor: $23,000
Mr. Market: $93,000
Ouch. The average investor barely doubled their money in 20 years. And this was a great 20 year period for the market in general. If the average investor earns only 4.3% in such a great bull market period, then imagine how well the average investor does over a time frame when things don't go as well.
Why such a big difference - market timing. Bad market timing. The lesson here is clear, if you are going to try to time the market, you better be sure you know what you're doing, most people don't.
Saturday, April 19, 2008
Friday, April 18, 2008
Saving and Spending
If you want to have a successful savings plan, I think that the first thing that you have to figure out is what type of spender and what type of saver you are. That is, what do you have to spend money on to make you happy and what can you save money on, because you can be happy without it.
In my mind, what you should save and splurge on depends a lot upon the person. I think that there are a lot of articles on saving out there that tell everyone to save $4 on a morning latte at Starbucks. Maybe that's not a bad idea for a lot of people. But for some, maybe that latte is what get's them out of bed and going to work in the morning. Another idea I hear is to limit eating out. Again this might be good for some people, but I'm not sure it's for me. Eating out is really a great socializing time and a lot more important to me than buying stuff or gadgets. But, if you decide to keep the latte and the dinners out, you have to find somewhere else to save. Maybe a new car isn't that important to you or maybe you can get by on a smaller apartment. Of course, some people may be the exact opposite. They can get by without the latte and the dinners out, but derive a lot of happiness from a new car or nice house or apartment.
The point is, decide what are the most important splurges to you. Once you identify what is the most important, you can start finding ways to save on the rest.
In my mind, what you should save and splurge on depends a lot upon the person. I think that there are a lot of articles on saving out there that tell everyone to save $4 on a morning latte at Starbucks. Maybe that's not a bad idea for a lot of people. But for some, maybe that latte is what get's them out of bed and going to work in the morning. Another idea I hear is to limit eating out. Again this might be good for some people, but I'm not sure it's for me. Eating out is really a great socializing time and a lot more important to me than buying stuff or gadgets. But, if you decide to keep the latte and the dinners out, you have to find somewhere else to save. Maybe a new car isn't that important to you or maybe you can get by on a smaller apartment. Of course, some people may be the exact opposite. They can get by without the latte and the dinners out, but derive a lot of happiness from a new car or nice house or apartment.
The point is, decide what are the most important splurges to you. Once you identify what is the most important, you can start finding ways to save on the rest.
Saturday, April 12, 2008
Stockpicking: Investing or Gambling
I earlier said that I think that young savers should be invested in 100% stocks. Should that include picking individual stocks, or just having mutual funds that own stocks? Well, I think that picking individual stocks can make sense. But, you want to decide whether you want to pick stocks like a gambler or pick stocks like an investor.
Gambling
A gambler picks stocks they know little about, in risky industries, possibly because they heard or read something about the stock. Buying a stock without doing research to really get to know the stock is gambling. Buying stocks of businesses you don't understand is gambling. Buying stocks of businesses that you don't know will be around in 1, 5 or 10 years, is gambling.
I remember hearing something about a stock for First Marblehead Corporation (FMD). This company makes money with student loans for college students and the stock has been decimated. It has gone from a 52-week high of $45.70 to a low of under $4. The stock may be cheap. I would think that student loans will be a big business for years to come. If the company can stay alive, its stock could double or triple. But I have no idea about the details of their business. I have no idea if they will go bankrupt. And, some investors thought the stock looked cheap at $15, $10, etc., and have lost big money. For me to buy this stock, I would be simply gambling. Maybe it would work out, maybe not. But it wouldn't be investing.
Investing
Investing in individual stocks means researching the company. Researching the companies earnings and other fundementals. Understanding the company. What they do. How they will make money in the upcoming years. You can draw on your personal experience here. Is the company one whose products you would buy? Is it a product/service you like, understand and think will be around in 10 years.
There are a number of books and theories on investing that can help you here. And I think that it is ok to look at expert recommendations, as long as you confirm those recommendations before investing your money.
I think there is a temptation to buy stocks like a gambler. Buy a story without doing the work of researching a company yourself. I just don't think that you can be successful as a stock gambler over 30 years.
Gambling
A gambler picks stocks they know little about, in risky industries, possibly because they heard or read something about the stock. Buying a stock without doing research to really get to know the stock is gambling. Buying stocks of businesses you don't understand is gambling. Buying stocks of businesses that you don't know will be around in 1, 5 or 10 years, is gambling.
I remember hearing something about a stock for First Marblehead Corporation (FMD). This company makes money with student loans for college students and the stock has been decimated. It has gone from a 52-week high of $45.70 to a low of under $4. The stock may be cheap. I would think that student loans will be a big business for years to come. If the company can stay alive, its stock could double or triple. But I have no idea about the details of their business. I have no idea if they will go bankrupt. And, some investors thought the stock looked cheap at $15, $10, etc., and have lost big money. For me to buy this stock, I would be simply gambling. Maybe it would work out, maybe not. But it wouldn't be investing.
Investing
Investing in individual stocks means researching the company. Researching the companies earnings and other fundementals. Understanding the company. What they do. How they will make money in the upcoming years. You can draw on your personal experience here. Is the company one whose products you would buy? Is it a product/service you like, understand and think will be around in 10 years.
There are a number of books and theories on investing that can help you here. And I think that it is ok to look at expert recommendations, as long as you confirm those recommendations before investing your money.
I think there is a temptation to buy stocks like a gambler. Buy a story without doing the work of researching a company yourself. I just don't think that you can be successful as a stock gambler over 30 years.
Sunday, April 6, 2008
Enemies of Investing Returns - FEES
This is the first in what will be a series of posts about enemies of investing returns. While the effects of compounding interest on savings was discussed in earlier posts (and the amazing difference that beginning to save early can have on accumulation of wealth), these effects can be greatly reduced by getting lower investment returns. In fact, most investors get significantly lower returns than the stock market in general. In these series of posts, we will discuss the "enemies" of investing returns that can give away your returns to big investment companies.
ACCOUNT INACTIVITY FEE
Let's talk about account inactivity fees. I held a small account at E-Trade (about $3K-$4K). When I started with E-Trade, there was no account inactivity fee. However, while I held the account there, they started charging me $40 per quarter if I did not make sufficient trades. I was using a buy and hold strategy, so I rarely had any trades. So, if I left my money there I would have been paying $160/year to E-Trade. $160 that should stay in my pocket. 5% of my annual returns. The first 5% of any money I made was slated to go to E-Trade and I would have to earn a 15% return to realize a market 10% return. In some earlier posts the differences between 10%, 8% and 6% were shown to be huge. Imagine the difference in returns if you are paying 5% in fees.
So, make sure you don't lose your returns to fees. By the way, I moved my account to Scottrade, which has no account inactivity fees. There are a number of other online brokerages with also have no inactivity fees.
ACCOUNT INACTIVITY FEE
Let's talk about account inactivity fees. I held a small account at E-Trade (about $3K-$4K). When I started with E-Trade, there was no account inactivity fee. However, while I held the account there, they started charging me $40 per quarter if I did not make sufficient trades. I was using a buy and hold strategy, so I rarely had any trades. So, if I left my money there I would have been paying $160/year to E-Trade. $160 that should stay in my pocket. 5% of my annual returns. The first 5% of any money I made was slated to go to E-Trade and I would have to earn a 15% return to realize a market 10% return. In some earlier posts the differences between 10%, 8% and 6% were shown to be huge. Imagine the difference in returns if you are paying 5% in fees.
So, make sure you don't lose your returns to fees. By the way, I moved my account to Scottrade, which has no account inactivity fees. There are a number of other online brokerages with also have no inactivity fees.
Saturday, April 5, 2008
Saving and Investing
Why is this blog about saving and investing? Well, they really go hand in hand. If you can't save any money, investing doesn't matter much. Conversely, even if you save a lot of money, it is difficult to accumulate significant wealth without at least reasonable investing returns. For example, if you can only save $100/year, it doesn't matter what return you get on your money, you aren't going to be wealthy. On the other hand, if you can't beat inflation with your investment returns, you are not going to accumulate wealth at any type of pace. I will give a little caveat to that. I have an uncle who is a ferocious saver. There aren't too many things harder to do than separate him and his money. Although not privy to the details of his finances, I am of the impression that he has made very mediocre investment returns. But by saving 60%, 70% or more of his income he has become wealthy even with bad investment returns. But who wants to save 60% of their income? Not me, and I have to imagine not you. If you don't mind saving most of your paycheck, then I guess you can get rich without worrying about investment returns. For the rest of us, it is important to both figure a way to save a reasonable amount and also find a way to maximize our investment returns.
Saturday, March 22, 2008
Saving $5000
In the examples in my previous posts, I use the metric of saving $5,000 a year. How hard is this - maybe not as hard as you think.
If you have a good 401(k) match at your company, then you may simply have to contribute $2500 a year to mee the $5,000 goal and your company will make up the rest. Not only that, since the $2,500 is taken before taxes, less than that amout is taken out of your pocket. For example, if you are in the 25% tax bracket, only $1,875 of that $2,500 would have made it into your pocket anyway. So, you may be able to sock away $5,000/year in a 401(k) by only taking $1,875 out of your pocket per year; $156/month; $36/week.
Of course, not everyone has a dollar for dollar company match (me included). Even if all you get is tax savings, making a $5,000/ year contribution takes significantly less than that out of your pocket. A company match decreases the amount taken out of your pocket even more. Under the 100% match example discussed above (admittedly sort of a best case scenario, but not entirely unrealistic) you can save $5,000 in your 401(k) for only $1,875.
If you have a good 401(k) match at your company, then you may simply have to contribute $2500 a year to mee the $5,000 goal and your company will make up the rest. Not only that, since the $2,500 is taken before taxes, less than that amout is taken out of your pocket. For example, if you are in the 25% tax bracket, only $1,875 of that $2,500 would have made it into your pocket anyway. So, you may be able to sock away $5,000/year in a 401(k) by only taking $1,875 out of your pocket per year; $156/month; $36/week.
Of course, not everyone has a dollar for dollar company match (me included). Even if all you get is tax savings, making a $5,000/ year contribution takes significantly less than that out of your pocket. A company match decreases the amount taken out of your pocket even more. Under the 100% match example discussed above (admittedly sort of a best case scenario, but not entirely unrealistic) you can save $5,000 in your 401(k) for only $1,875.
Bonds v Stocks
As noted in an earlier post, if you start young and get a return similar to the historical average for the US stock market, the gains can be dramatic.
Stocks
Investing $5,000/year and earning a 10% annual return:
starting at 25 = $2.4 million at 65
starting at 30 = $1.49 million at 65
starting at 35 = $900K at 65
starting at 45 = $315K at 65
starting at 55 = $88K at 65
On the other hand, let's say you get a pretty good bond return of 6%. The difference between investing in stocks and bonds is dramatic:
Bonds
Investing $5,000/year and earning a 6% annual return:
starting at 25 = $820K at 65
starting at 30 = $590K at 65
starting at 35 = $419K at 65
starting at 45 = $195K at 65
starting at 55 = $70K at 65
Starting young still makes a big difference, but compare the $590K you get if you start at 30 and invest in bonds and the $1.49 million you could have if you invest in stocks and get historical returns.
Stocks
Investing $5,000/year and earning a 10% annual return:
starting at 25 = $2.4 million at 65
starting at 30 = $1.49 million at 65
starting at 35 = $900K at 65
starting at 45 = $315K at 65
starting at 55 = $88K at 65
On the other hand, let's say you get a pretty good bond return of 6%. The difference between investing in stocks and bonds is dramatic:
Bonds
Investing $5,000/year and earning a 6% annual return:
starting at 25 = $820K at 65
starting at 30 = $590K at 65
starting at 35 = $419K at 65
starting at 45 = $195K at 65
starting at 55 = $70K at 65
Starting young still makes a big difference, but compare the $590K you get if you start at 30 and invest in bonds and the $1.49 million you could have if you invest in stocks and get historical returns.
Wednesday, March 12, 2008
100% Stocks
My company recently added these target date funds to our 401(k) plan. As you may know, these funds adjust the mix of investments as someon nears retirement. You pick the fund by the year you plan on retiring. For example, if you plan on retiring in 2040, then you pick the target date 2040 fund. Currently, the 2040 fund offered at my company includes a mix of 92.25% stocks and 7.75% bonds. As the years pass, the mix is going to shift more towards bonds. For instance, the 2010 retirement fund has only 64.75% in stocks and the rest in bonds or short term plays. Of course this varies per the fund company.
So, the question is how much should you and me have in stocks. I would have to say 100% stocks or other aggressive plays (e.g., commodities if you like). Let's say you plan on retiring in 32 years (2040). The 2040 fund offered at my company has 7.75% bonds. What type of hedge is that? I mean, if the stock market is flat this year or the next 10 years, what difference does 7.75% in bonds make - Not much. Maybe you get a 0.5% return instead of nothing. You could put more in bonds to get a greater hedge, but bond returns are simply not high enough. A small percentage in bonds simply drags down returns. Of course this is a blog for young savers with a 20, 30 or 40 yr time frame. If you are only a few years from retirement, you would want to have a significant hedge against fluctuating stock prices.
So, the question is how much should you and me have in stocks. I would have to say 100% stocks or other aggressive plays (e.g., commodities if you like). Let's say you plan on retiring in 32 years (2040). The 2040 fund offered at my company has 7.75% bonds. What type of hedge is that? I mean, if the stock market is flat this year or the next 10 years, what difference does 7.75% in bonds make - Not much. Maybe you get a 0.5% return instead of nothing. You could put more in bonds to get a greater hedge, but bond returns are simply not high enough. A small percentage in bonds simply drags down returns. Of course this is a blog for young savers with a 20, 30 or 40 yr time frame. If you are only a few years from retirement, you would want to have a significant hedge against fluctuating stock prices.
Monday, March 10, 2008
Saving, Investing and the Economy
This is generally a finance and investing blog for young savers. Sometimes you need to talk about the economy to talk about saving and investing.
Anyway, I am now of the opinion that this may a bit more of a protracted recession than I had originally thought. Late last year there was the talk of a possible recession. Early this year the odds began increasing on an almost daily basis. Now, I think that we are in a recession, though it won't be official for a few months. This may be just personal experience, but the company I work for is beginning to brace for the worst - no raises, no travel, etc. I think that bad numbers from a lot of companies are going to begin coming in soon.
Like I said above, I am starting to be concerned that this is going to take a couple of years to work itself out, rather than the 6 months or so I originally thought. There are just a lot of fundamental problems that need to be worked out. Namely, CREDIT. In the 90s, the economic expansion appears to have been built on gains in productivity. Unfortunatly, the expansion of the 00s was built on credit. People were first fueling the economy by saving less and less. Then more and more credit card debt. Finally, home equity loans and the like. Now, the nation is simply tapped out. Even the federal government doesn't have anywhere to go. What can they really do - cut taxes more (I mean something in addition to the rebate/stimulus plan). A nice idea, but not with the current budget.
I place the blame for this recession at least partly on the backs of the spenders. Maybe a few more savers in the land of the free wouldn't be too bad.
Check back for posts on saving and investing in a slowing economy.
Anyway, I am now of the opinion that this may a bit more of a protracted recession than I had originally thought. Late last year there was the talk of a possible recession. Early this year the odds began increasing on an almost daily basis. Now, I think that we are in a recession, though it won't be official for a few months. This may be just personal experience, but the company I work for is beginning to brace for the worst - no raises, no travel, etc. I think that bad numbers from a lot of companies are going to begin coming in soon.
Like I said above, I am starting to be concerned that this is going to take a couple of years to work itself out, rather than the 6 months or so I originally thought. There are just a lot of fundamental problems that need to be worked out. Namely, CREDIT. In the 90s, the economic expansion appears to have been built on gains in productivity. Unfortunatly, the expansion of the 00s was built on credit. People were first fueling the economy by saving less and less. Then more and more credit card debt. Finally, home equity loans and the like. Now, the nation is simply tapped out. Even the federal government doesn't have anywhere to go. What can they really do - cut taxes more (I mean something in addition to the rebate/stimulus plan). A nice idea, but not with the current budget.
I place the blame for this recession at least partly on the backs of the spenders. Maybe a few more savers in the land of the free wouldn't be too bad.
Check back for posts on saving and investing in a slowing economy.
Sunday, March 9, 2008
The Advantages of Starting to Save Young
A quick review of the advantages of starting to save and invest young:
Investing $5,000/year at 8% interest:
starting at 25 = $1.4 million at 65
starting at 30 = $935K at 65
5starting at 35 = $612K at 65
starting at 45 = $247K at 65
starting at 55 = $78K at 65
If you can get the market average of 10% a year, the results of starting early are even more dramatic:
starting at 25 = $2.4 million at 65
starting at 30 = $1.49 million at 65
starting at 35 = $900K at 65
starting at 45 = $315K at 65
starting at 55 = $88K at 65
The advantages of beginning to save in your 20s or 30s is simply dramatic. If you start at 55 rather than 35, you need to save more than 10 times more (in our example, you would need to save $50,000/year rather than $5,000/year).
So, there is the case for starting to save and invest young. Starting to save early is a tremendous advantage. Saving early = comfortable or luxurious retirement.
Investing $5,000/year at 8% interest:
starting at 25 = $1.4 million at 65
starting at 30 = $935K at 65
5starting at 35 = $612K at 65
starting at 45 = $247K at 65
starting at 55 = $78K at 65
If you can get the market average of 10% a year, the results of starting early are even more dramatic:
starting at 25 = $2.4 million at 65
starting at 30 = $1.49 million at 65
starting at 35 = $900K at 65
starting at 45 = $315K at 65
starting at 55 = $88K at 65
The advantages of beginning to save in your 20s or 30s is simply dramatic. If you start at 55 rather than 35, you need to save more than 10 times more (in our example, you would need to save $50,000/year rather than $5,000/year).
So, there is the case for starting to save and invest young. Starting to save early is a tremendous advantage. Saving early = comfortable or luxurious retirement.
Saturday, March 8, 2008
Young Savers
Welcome to the Young Savers Blog. This blog is for people in their 20s and 30s to discuss saving, spending, investing, finances, getting rich slowly, getting rich not so slowly, and the issues that face young savers.
Things have changed a great deal for younger (gen x, gen y) workers. My grandfather and my father each had pensions for retirement. Even if they saved $0 for retirement, they could live reasonably comfortably. I'm hoping to get a nice pat on the back on my last day of work. When my father went to work, he paid for it by working in the summers. When my son goes to college, my alma mater is going to have tuition over $100K per year. On the other hand, people are saving less and less.
How much do we need to save? What should we invest in - stocks, bonds commodities, real estate? Does the traditional investing advice still make sense? What if you are trying to save money, what should you save money on? You've seen the traditional articles that you'll save x hundred of dollars a year if you cut out the morning lattes. What if you don't have a morning latte to cut out, or don't want to cut out a morning latte.
This blog will explore all of those questions and more. Hope that you will enjoy the discussions.
Things have changed a great deal for younger (gen x, gen y) workers. My grandfather and my father each had pensions for retirement. Even if they saved $0 for retirement, they could live reasonably comfortably. I'm hoping to get a nice pat on the back on my last day of work. When my father went to work, he paid for it by working in the summers. When my son goes to college, my alma mater is going to have tuition over $100K per year. On the other hand, people are saving less and less.
How much do we need to save? What should we invest in - stocks, bonds commodities, real estate? Does the traditional investing advice still make sense? What if you are trying to save money, what should you save money on? You've seen the traditional articles that you'll save x hundred of dollars a year if you cut out the morning lattes. What if you don't have a morning latte to cut out, or don't want to cut out a morning latte.
This blog will explore all of those questions and more. Hope that you will enjoy the discussions.
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